Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
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Re: Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
Can bet that!!!!
maybe need help from our favourite US friend regarding shipping but cheap as CHIPS!!!
http://82ndairbornedivisionmuseum.com/cube/books/cat_2.html
maybe need help from our favourite US friend regarding shipping but cheap as CHIPS!!!
http://82ndairbornedivisionmuseum.com/cube/books/cat_2.html
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I found a copy on Abebooks, £54.50 + postage
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dragoon_44 wrote:Can bet that!!!!
maybe need help from our favourite US friend regarding shipping but cheap as CHIPS!!!
http://82ndairbornedivisionmuseum.com/cube/books/cat_2.html
I have a free checked bag so help me fill it!
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Re: Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
TonyM wrote:I found a copy on Abebooks, £54.50 + postage
Great find Tony!!
After paying £100+ for the first book hopefully we'll save a few quid on the second and successive editions!!!
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Thats a good price for Vol 2.
Although after Vol 1 I wasn't as impressed as I thought I'd be. Maybe I'm just too much of a De Trez geek but I found a way more spelling and captioning errors than I'd like for a book of that expense if you see what I mean?
Great content for sure but basic errors when you're paying nearly 3 figures isn't great.
I'll still end up getting Vol 2 though...
Although after Vol 1 I wasn't as impressed as I thought I'd be. Maybe I'm just too much of a De Trez geek but I found a way more spelling and captioning errors than I'd like for a book of that expense if you see what I mean?
Great content for sure but basic errors when you're paying nearly 3 figures isn't great.
I'll still end up getting Vol 2 though...
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Re: Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
Got my copy yesterday, only had a quick flick through but looks like the same quality and quantity of images as the last volume, about the same page count too
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Got my book this morning too!
Loads of detailed info in there and not just the ‘usual’ stuff, in fact much to my annoyance I’ve learnt something new already….
Tony & Sam, remember the ‘original’ M42 jacket that I showed you at Old Buck that I’d been watching on Ebay? The one that apparently had 11th Airborne provenance???
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1940s-WWII-True-Vintage-Khaki-US-11th-Airborne-Division-M-42-Jump-Jacket-/311114704876?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=PsqvvGlT8AyVELft50Tpv37EbaU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Well, I emailed the seller to ask a number of questions and got the following reply –
Hi, not a problem. One of my oldest friends has a vintage shop called Klaxon Howl in Toronto, he is also a prolific collector and knows more about military vintage than anyone I have ever me; his knowledge is encyclopaedic and he is always my go to for items I can’t identify. I bought the jacket at War & Peace, the guy said it was a reproduction but I knew it wasn’t, suspecting it to be made in country but not knowing for sure I bought it. Enter Matt, he believes this is not a regulation jacket (so there are no vent holes under the arms) that it was probably made in Japan after the war by a local tailor. I have since spoken to another mate of mine who at one point had the largest collection of A-2’s in the world and he feels it is also a local version made for an occupying 11th Airborne. He said that American soldiers were stationed all over South East Asia after WWII and would often have regulation kit copied for personal use. We all feel the inclusion of a 1930’s Talon, the DOT snaps and the period stitching make it highly likely that it is a period piece.
I hope this is helpful
I did a bit of research myself and it seemed that when the 11th arrived in the Far East they had all but switched over to standard HBT jackets and trousers. You’ll recall we all agreed why would they then have old pattern M42 jackets made up as private purchase items anyway? I even thought that it could well have even been one of the old jackets used in the Errol Flynn movie 'Objective Burma'???. So, all things considered I therefore came to the assumption that as good a copy as the jacket seemed it just wasn’t worth buying…
Well…
You guessed it, in the new book there’s a couple of pages giving examples of Japan made private purchase M42’s that the 11th had made…. GRRRRR!!!! So it seems that someone might have got quite a rare item at a bargain price!!!
Oh well, you live and learn.
Loads of detailed info in there and not just the ‘usual’ stuff, in fact much to my annoyance I’ve learnt something new already….
Tony & Sam, remember the ‘original’ M42 jacket that I showed you at Old Buck that I’d been watching on Ebay? The one that apparently had 11th Airborne provenance???
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1940s-WWII-True-Vintage-Khaki-US-11th-Airborne-Division-M-42-Jump-Jacket-/311114704876?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=PsqvvGlT8AyVELft50Tpv37EbaU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Well, I emailed the seller to ask a number of questions and got the following reply –
Hi, not a problem. One of my oldest friends has a vintage shop called Klaxon Howl in Toronto, he is also a prolific collector and knows more about military vintage than anyone I have ever me; his knowledge is encyclopaedic and he is always my go to for items I can’t identify. I bought the jacket at War & Peace, the guy said it was a reproduction but I knew it wasn’t, suspecting it to be made in country but not knowing for sure I bought it. Enter Matt, he believes this is not a regulation jacket (so there are no vent holes under the arms) that it was probably made in Japan after the war by a local tailor. I have since spoken to another mate of mine who at one point had the largest collection of A-2’s in the world and he feels it is also a local version made for an occupying 11th Airborne. He said that American soldiers were stationed all over South East Asia after WWII and would often have regulation kit copied for personal use. We all feel the inclusion of a 1930’s Talon, the DOT snaps and the period stitching make it highly likely that it is a period piece.
I hope this is helpful
I did a bit of research myself and it seemed that when the 11th arrived in the Far East they had all but switched over to standard HBT jackets and trousers. You’ll recall we all agreed why would they then have old pattern M42 jackets made up as private purchase items anyway? I even thought that it could well have even been one of the old jackets used in the Errol Flynn movie 'Objective Burma'???. So, all things considered I therefore came to the assumption that as good a copy as the jacket seemed it just wasn’t worth buying…
Well…
You guessed it, in the new book there’s a couple of pages giving examples of Japan made private purchase M42’s that the 11th had made…. GRRRRR!!!! So it seems that someone might have got quite a rare item at a bargain price!!!
Oh well, you live and learn.
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Re: Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
I'm sure that Sam and I told you to buy that!!
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You are shitting me!!
I almost feel bad that I thought it was a fake! You do live and learn it seems! It shows we need to do some more research on the PTO A/B.
What did it sell for in the end then?
I almost feel bad that I thought it was a fake! You do live and learn it seems! It shows we need to do some more research on the PTO A/B.
What did it sell for in the end then?
Re: Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
1 bid only, sold for the starting price of £150....
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Re: Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
Looks like someone got a bargain then as I imagine they are rarer than originals! Let's just pretend it's a repro that someone was passing off as original lol!
Re: Heroes in our midst - LTC(Ret.) John R. Angolia & Jake Powers
Remind me to tell you a story that beats that one by a country mile Dan.
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